Cap v. Coak - Menino v. Flaherty - Half-Man Regan - Boycott - Secret Ballot in MA House -WITH POLL

Howie Carr-Crash (0.00 / 0)

Fatty Carr-buckle
Howard Louis Carr III, minus I
Not So Fast Carr
The Leach
The Vulture
Dumb Ass
Diet Barnicle
The Absent Son


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I am noternie.

More than a full year's worth of blogginess at  Someday I Will.

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by: noternie @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 12:19:22 PM CDT

or barnicle (0.00 / 0)

after it's been in the fridge a week too long.

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by: fairdeal @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 17:06:20 PM CDT

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Re Yoon/Flaherty (0.00 / 0)

I don't know how representative my wife and I are, but we both voted for Yoon and will probably end up voting for Menino, so I don't think that Flaherty can count on all of the Yoon voters to automatically go his way.

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by: HR's Kevin @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 12:48:52 PM CDT

You're Married? (5.25 / 4)

She must be a saint.

Ernie Boch, III is not related to Ernie Boch, Jr. however he does hope to be in his will.

Justice for Tookie

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by: EB3 @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 13:49:29 PM CDT

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Goog to See Your (0.00 / 0)

sense of humor is in working order huh.

Ernie Boch, III is not related to Ernie Boch, Jr. however he does hope to be in his will.

Justice for Tookie

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by: EB3 @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 14:06:23 PM CDT

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That may have been funny in third grade (5.33 / 3)

It's still pretty darn weak.

I suppose it's better than calling him a homo. I upgraded you to "needs work" since there's no "needs a new joke book" rating.

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by: huh @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 14:21:35 PM CDT

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Voted for Kevin McCrea, Will Be Voting and working the polls for Michael Flaherty (5.00 / 1)

That should counteract one of your family's two votes.

Also, I cannot see anyone who voted for Kevin McCrea voting for Menino. They will either vote Flaherty, blank on Mayor or stay home.

Finally, given that they dragged Chuck Turner out of city hall in handcuffs, I hope and trust that they will do the same for Kineavy when his time comes. My pick in the pool for which day he will be taken out in handcuffs is Friday, October 30th.

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by: mike_cote @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 16:04:36 PM CDT

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Comparing apples to oranges. (0.00 / 0)

Deleting emails hardly rises to the level of bribery, but then again I'm not sure Chuck Turner's crimes should have been the drag out in handcuffs variety either.

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by: Christopher @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 19:12:17 PM CDT

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Why is this so hard for you to grasp? (5.00 / 2)

I feel like this is the tenth time someone has told you their is more here than you are admitting too. The deletion of public records is bad enough, but you are overlooking some big points.

1. The emails in question started to be deleted during the weeks BEFORE the Wilkerson story broke. Please respond to the timing and if it is just a coincedence.

2. Dianne Wilkerson had a contact in the mayors office who she believed could "push" things through for her. It is believed that it could have been Kineavy. These emails in question could prove if she was calling in favors and looking for inside access through Kineavy.

3. They have lied countless times. Dot Joyce and the mayor saying it was a "glitch", then it was something about "Michael Kineavy doesn't use email a lot", then it was because he is a clean freak. We also had Bill Sinott, counsel to the mayor state that Michael Kineavy has had the same computer for 3 + years. Today we learn that Michael Kineavy complained about his computer being slow a few days AFTER the Globe asked for his emails. His computer was magically switched out days later and yet he tries to tell us all that he didn't know.  DOES ANYONE BELIEVE that. Even Pam Wilmot from Common Cause thinks that it is fishy.

4. As I type this Michael Kineavy has announced he is taking a leave of absence. Why do that if he isn't guilty?

Are their unanswered questions, yes.  Why? Because the Menino admintration has insuffiently answered questions about this scandal. They have stonewalled at every corner and lied.

I am supporting Michael Flaherty, but that shouldn't take away from the fact that this looks a lot like a cover up.

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by: kaj314 @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 20:04:03 PM CDT

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This is the first I'm hearing... (6.00 / 2)

...that the deletion of emails might have something to do with Wilkerson.  She was a state legislator not a city employee which I guess I figured were different spheres.  Maybe I haven't been following this closely enough, but I never thought about these two issues simultaneously.  For the record, I've thought Wilkerson was bad news for a long time and never figured out how she managed to maintain political support for so long.  If this is a matter of destroying evidence pursuant to another investigation then yes, that is more upsetting than someone who is just in the habit of deleting emails which is what I thought this was about.  I still think if we really want to prevent this problem in the first place all emails to and from city accounts should automatically be copied to a hard drive.  Then people like me who routinely purge their inbox and folders can do so without destroying the messages completely for FOIA and investigative purposes.

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by: Christopher @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 20:28:48 PM CDT

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I thought this post (0.00 / 0)

was pretty clear, maybe you didn't follow it after you posted in it.  

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by: kaj314 @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 20:40:19 PM CDT

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I would understand (6.00 / 1)

not following anything where the dreaded PMG trolls and spams.

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by: kaj314 @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 20:42:07 PM CDT

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Please, Christopher... (6.00 / 2)

The connection between Ms. Wilkerson and Mr. Kineavy has been all over the news reports, from the very beginning. It was the reason for the Globe's FIA request, and the Globe has been reasonably clear about that in virtually all of it's reporting.

As I've posted in other places, it is ludicrous that any government agency is not archiving in-bound and out-bound emails on their own mail server. It's beyond ludicrous -- it creates the appearance, if not the substance, of contempt for the public records laws. The action of any individual should have no impact whatsoever on public records like these.

Meanwhile, have you not heard of the FBI subpoena of Mr. Kineavy's records? Have you not been paying attention to the city's flagrant effort to dance around those subpoenas?

Let me try and spell it out as I understand it. The allegation, made by both Mr. Turner and Ms. Wilkerson, is that Mr. Kineavy was the person in the administration who collected the payments needed to obtain liquor licenses. Both Mr. Turner and Ms. Wilkerson named him, and both described multiple email contacts with him. Various witnesses have stated that they thought they were helping the FBI put a stop to what they described as flagrant corruption in City Hall -- the word on the street has been that to get a liquor license in the City of Boston, you made a "contribution", and the person who channeled those contributions was Mr. Kineavy.

THAT is what this entire episode has been about from the beginning.

"If the Republicans will stop lying about the Democrats, the Democrats will stop telling the truth about the Republicans" -- Adlai Stevenson

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by: BrooklineTom @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 23:14:04 PM CDT

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Keep in mind too... (6.00 / 1)

...that I've been in the DC area for several months.  BMG is the closest I come to keeping up with MA political news.  I do, however, stand by previously stated philosophical disagreements on deleting emails per se, though if such deletion can be pegged as conspiracy then that should be enforced.

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by: Christopher @ Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 08:57:53 AM CDT

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It was pegged as conspiracy when it broke (0.00 / 0)

This isn't some late-breaking stunner. The story has been about Mr. Kineavy's role in improperly awarding liquor licenses from the very beginning.

Behavior like this is why the public records law exists. The practice of deleting email is, under the law, the same as a practice of shredding notes and documents. It's illegal, I am under the impression that it's criminal, and in this case it has had the appearance of conspiracy to obstruct justice from the beginning.

Mike Capuano, in addition to enthusiastically and aggressively advocating for positions I agree with, is refreshingly separated from all these distasteful entanglements.

When the indictments begin to rain down on the Menino administration (and they will), the fallout from the early and politically intimate connections between Martha Coakley and the Menino machine will be far less damaging to Massachusetts and the our national agenda if Mike Capuano is our Senator.

"If the Republicans will stop lying about the Democrats, the Democrats will stop telling the truth about the Republicans" -- Adlai Stevenson

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by: BrooklineTom @ Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 10:54:13 AM CDT

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Thank you (6.00 / 2)

Something seemed wrong about dragging Chuck Turner out in handcuff's after he refused to accept the money offered. Were they attempting to catch or entice? I'll wait and see, but this doesn't appear to be the strongest prosecution case.

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by: Sue Kennedy @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 23:51:30 PM CDT

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Now I have to change the prediction!!!!!! (0.00 / 0)

Because Kineavy has taken a "leave" in order to spend more time with his family, or um, sorry, to spend more time working on the reelection campaign?!?!

Why? Because being dragged out of the campaign headquarters in handcuffs will be "Soooooooo" much better than being dragged out of city hall.

I still say Friday, October 30th, but now it will be from a bunker or undisclosed location. I understand Saddam's hole in the basement is current vacant.

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by: mike_cote @ Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 11:26:52 AM CDT

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Howie "Submit" Carr (0.00 / 0)

From Wikipedia:

Up until early 2006, Carr referred to his wife as Submit. Prior to a signing for his new book, The Brothers Bulger: How They Terrorized and Corrupted Boston for a Quarter Century (ISBN 0-446-57651-4), at Wellesley Free Library on March 4, 2006, Carr explained that he came across the name on a headstone in the cemetery across from his house when he lived in Acton, Massachusetts, and thought that it would be a great name for a woman because it wasn't likely to become popular again anytime soon. In the early stages of their marriage, Mrs. Carr didn't want her first name to be public knowledge, hence her husband's moniker for her. For Christmas 2005, as a gift to his wife, Carr said he would stop referring to her as Submit.

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by: Carey Theil @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 14:35:20 PM CDT

Wait A Second. I Have It. (0.00 / 0)

What was the monkee's name in the Ronald Reagan movies/

Instead of Ronald Reagan's bobo, Howie is George Regan's bobo.

What's the name? That will be Howie's new handle. As in "chimp's name, George Rega's bobo"

Ernie Boch, III is not related to Ernie Boch, Jr. however he does hope to be in his will.

Justice for Tookie

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by: EB3 @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 14:41:40 PM CDT

Bonzo - Howie carr's New Name is "Bonzo" (0.00 / 0)

As in Bonzo the chimp, Ronald Reagan's chimp in the movies. Howie is George Regan's chimp. His bobo. His Bonzo.

Ernie Boch, III is not related to Ernie Boch, Jr. however he does hope to be in his will.

Justice for Tookie

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by: EB3 @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 14:45:43 PM CDT

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Was Bonzo in (0.00 / 0)

Ronnie and Nancy Reagan's movie A turkey for the President?

Shoe bomber, underwear bomber -- why aren't we waging war on clothes?

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by: kirth @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 18:43:27 PM CDT

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Howie's Nickname (6.00 / 1)

The Wellesley Wannabe

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by: eddiecoyle @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 14:56:48 PM CDT

Hmmm (0.00 / 0)

How about Letterman Wannabe

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by: jconway @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 15:27:17 PM CDT

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here comes capuano! (3.00 / 1)

. . . whitey was a pantywaist.

now is the finally the chance for that unique brand of somerville obnoxiousness to go national !

you gotta problem with that, pal?

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by: fairdeal @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 17:03:32 PM CDT

Kudos for the Bismarck reference. (0.00 / 0)

recommend.

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by: JoeTS @ Tue Oct 06, 2009 at 21:31:15 PM CDT

Howard Nicknames (0.00 / 0)

1. Ho-Ho
2. Howard the Putz
3. Howie Viagra
4. Howie the Hater
5. The Wellesley Whiner

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by: ThrobbingPatriot @ Wed Oct 07, 2009 at 13:45:49 PM CDT