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Quick hits

by: Charley on the MTA

Fri Oct 30, 2009 at 09:39:43 AM EDT


  • Obviously we would have liked to see economic growth in MA last quarter, especially considering the national growth @ 3+%. However, that seems to be partly because we haven't suffered quite as badly as places like, say, Michigan.

    UMass Dartmouth economic analyst Michael Goodman said it is not as bad as it looks. He co-edited the MassBenchmarks report and said much of the growth nationally was boosted by Cash for Clunkers and the first time homebuyer tax credit.

    “The states that are much more dependent on auto manufacturing and have had much more difficult housing markets benefited disproportionately,” Goodman said.

  • Outraged Lib says the Gov. is handling the budget cuts well -- especially considering the alternatives offered by his political opposition.

    Going through massive cutbacks while relatively insulating chapter 70 and local aid would be a remarkable achievement ... politically. But, as has been explained to me, you really only have two pots of money: Cities and towns, and social safety net. So even as we're not cutting schools as much as we might have, we are putting more homeless people on the streets -- straight up.

    Here's urging the legislature to find the money (revenue) to keep programs -- especially those that save money in the long term. Here's urging the public employee unions to take the furlough, share the sacrifice and save more of their own jobs.

  • CBO says House bill reduces the deficit, in the near and long terms; covers 96% of the public by 2019. Do the moderate Dems in the Senate have any talking points left?
    • Will it "bankrupt the country", per Landrieu? No.
    • Per Lieberman, is it "asking for trouble ... [in re] the national debt"? No. 
    • Evan Bayh ... I don't know what that dude wants.

    I mean, I understand that some Senators feel that they need to be perceived as pushing back on something perceived as "liberal" -- not because it's bad policy, or even that they understand it at all, but just for positioning. I get it. But at some point you just have to say that your concerns have been addressed, and basta.

  • Oh, just one more, in the Fish In A Barrel Dep't: In a bracingly mindless column, Peggy Noonan wonders why we call it Big Pharma ... she thinks it's because it "sounds menacing."

    Uh ... Peggy?



    I concede her point: It does sound menacing.
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Another quick hit... (4.00 / 2)
The largest stimulus program in the nation's history has created or saved at least 650,000 jobs, according to a report released by the Obama administration on Friday.

Based on approximately $150 billion in spending from the $787 billion recovery package, the tally is the first broad, concrete look at the stimulus program's impact on the economy. The numbers are drawn from tens of thousands of reports from state and local recipients and include as many 30,000 jobs from private companies.

Doing the math shows that only cost us taxpayers $230,769 per job... such a deal! And I was worried about $93K for an Interpreter. Who says the Government can't do anything right????

Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"


When you're bleeding (0.00 / 0)
The first thing you have to do is STOP.

[ Parent ]
Yes, we should have done what Bush did three times and failed instead. (0.00 / 0)


Listening to Charlie Baker talk about fiscal responsibility is like getting lectured on abstinence from Paris Hilton - Tim Murray

[ Parent ]
Everything is honky-dory now that we have Obama. (3.50 / 2)
Try to go thru a day without mentioning former 2 term President Bush. Think of it as free therapy... Weld/Romney are gone, Bush/Cheney are gone, Newt is gone... Deval, Obama, Pelosi, Reid... are in power and bear all the responsibilities that go with their positions. Obama owns it all, Afghanistan, Iran, North Korea, tax increases, healthcare... everytin!

Who else do you blame for your problems ("I would have been successful if my third grade math teacher didn't suck"...). Let's stop blaming everyone and take responsibility.

Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"


[ Parent ]
infamously incompetent scoundrels (6.00 / 1)
If only their public service - Bush, Cheney, Newt, Romney, Weld - had left us at least as well off as when then entered office.   And to be honest, only Bush and Weld are gone. (Weld hardly deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as the rest of these infamously incompetent scoundrels.)

www.bit.ly/7Wousr - "Must include a public option"
www.bit.ly/7yaoMv - Coakley shifts, backs abortion curb
www.bit.ly/5f8CVb - John Kerry reporting for duty!
www.bit.ly/6rJnZU - Questions for Martha Coakley on Civil Rights  


[ Parent ]
Loved them all. (0.00 / 0)
Not perfect but did a great job in my book.

Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"

[ Parent ]
George Bush (6.00 / 3)
Not perfect but did a great job in my book.

-JohnD

'nuff said.  

www.bit.ly/7Wousr - "Must include a public option"
www.bit.ly/7yaoMv - Coakley shifts, backs abortion curb
www.bit.ly/5f8CVb - John Kerry reporting for duty!
www.bit.ly/6rJnZU - Questions for Martha Coakley on Civil Rights  


[ Parent ]
Maybe you're just really forgetful. (6.00 / 5)
You were already called out specifically on the $93k interpreter job because it didn't pay a dime last year, and you acknowledged that the interpreter job was a horrible example.  Yet, you use it again here.

Smacks of dishonesty.  How's that for a quick hit.


[ Parent ]
How long can we last creating jobs at $237,769 a whack? (3.00 / 2)
That $93K Interpreter position (if it was filled) would have been a deal!

Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"

[ Parent ]
In short, (6.00 / 2)
you're being blatantly dishonest on multiple threads, and when you're called out, you just don't care.



[ Parent ]
Awesome pic, very funny! (0.00 / 0)


Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"

[ Parent ]
Misleading ... intentionally or unintentionally? (6.00 / 1)
Your "math" leaves out the value of the products created and services rendered by these jobs.

For instance, my agency is currently involved in a roughly $100 million mixed-use (housing and retail) development project that just broke ground, "creating" roughly 1,000 construction jobs. So, is each worker costing the developer $100k? I don't think that anyone would try to claim that seeing as how the developer will walk away with two buildings with a combined value of well over the $100 million that the comapny is putting in.

What are we getting for the government's $150 billion? How many bridges and schools are being built or repaired, how many highways and local streets are being expanded or otherwise improved? Total up the value of all of that and then add in the value of all the other things being produced and the value of all the services being rendered by these 650,000 people and subtract that from $150 billion. That's the real cost of the subsidy.

The most practical kind of politics is the politics of decency. -Teddy Roosevelt


[ Parent ]
Good point but I still say many were just "paid". (0.00 / 0)
From the NYT an hour ago...

The best symbol of the $787 billion federal stimulus program turns out not to be of a construction worker in a hard hat, but rather of a classroom teacher saved from a layoff.

On Friday, the Obama administration released the most detailed information yet on the jobs created by the stimulus. Preliminary data showed that of the 640,239 jobs created or saved, 325,000, or more than half, were jobs in education that school districts claimed were saved when stimulus money averted the need for layoffs. While the stimulus was initially sold in large part as a public works program, only about 80,000 of the jobs that were claimed Friday were in construction.

PS How do you measure a "saved" job?

Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"


[ Parent ]
Yikes! (0.00 / 0)
That does make your argument a lot more persuasive.

The most practical kind of politics is the politics of decency. -Teddy Roosevelt

[ Parent ]
Hey, re cost per job (6.00 / 1)
The value to the taxpayer is not just in the jobs created, but also the services rendered by those jobs.  We get, for example, the value of stimulus money paid for a road project in the road itself, in the employment offered by the project, and in the ripple effect of those employed purchasing other goods and services in the community.  

"Perseverance is a great element of success. If you knock long enough and loud enough at the gate, you are sure to wake up somebody." -Longfellow

[ Parent ]
We also get the value (5.00 / 1)
of those men and women not collecting unemployment, not dropping their insurance and then falling into the free care pool, not losing their home to bankruptcy and tearing a hole in the fabric of the neighborhood.  We gain the value of their kids not being so distracted by their family's personal economic collapse that they struggle at school.

My big frustration with the stimulus is that "shovel ready" in many parts of the country meant build more roads for more automobiles in more of suburbia, thereby reinforcing the bad planning that's only making it harder to reverse our addiction to oil and gas.  I'd have much preferred far more money being spent to build rail -- subway, streetcar, Amtrak, high speed, the works.  I'd also have liked money being spent to build dense inexpensive (but not cheap!) LEED-certified housing along mass transit networks -- imagine 100 unit buildings: 25 for seniors, 25 for vets, 25 affordable, 25 for local employees (cops, teachers, DPW, etc).  In smaller urban areas, make 'em 40 units instead of 100, the same point.

Instead, we needed to spend the money quickly, and most areas of the country spent most of the transit money on mo'bigger roads and parking lots, only exacerbating our addiction to oil and gas.  Rail and housing on transit would have served to do the opposite.


[ Parent ]
Another quick hit... (3.00 / 2)
Were you thinking of cashing out...

Dow 9,704.80 DOWN 257.78 DOWN 2.59%

might be too late.  

Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"


TTDNF (6.00 / 2)


Shoe bomber, underwear bomber -- why aren't we waging war on clothes?

[ Parent ]
What's that mean? (0.00 / 0)
nt

---

Blue Mass. Group
So what politics do you deserve?


[ Parent ]
do not feed the entities bob has forbidden us from calling trolls (6.00 / 3)


[ Parent ]
Which is why I resort to ratings (4.00 / 3)
When I saw that my diary announcing the House Democrats' health plan had three comments, I had a suspicion at least one was JohnD's, since he clearly thinks people shouldn't be covered.  Of course I was proven correct in my prediction and I promised myself before I even saw the comments that I would not engage him this time.

[ Parent ]
Be careful Christopher. (3.50 / 2)
I have never said anything about not wanting people covered under the Healthcare reform. You have bought into the "our way or the highway" attitude of the Democratic House and Senate (and White House) where any opposition or criticism is attacked as "NO". Your pat has blown a huge opportunity and now are in a stink. Too bad they truly didn't try bipartisanship instead of the mockery we've endured. I'll have to give you a ZERO for misrepresenting me.

since he clearly thinks people shouldn't be covered.


Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"

[ Parent ]
Sometimes (6.00 / 2)
I have also in the past given you credit for linking a plan in your signature, but so often if you haven't said it outright, you have strongly suggested that certain people aren't deserving.  There's no my-way-or-the-highway from me.  If that were my attitude I'd be opposing anything that's not single-payer.  I admit to slapping you around a bit in my comment, but that's still not what zeroes are for.  Sorry, but I've definitely heard value judgements in your arguments and not simply genuine concerns about costs.

[ Parent ]
You are right in that I don't think healthcare is a constitutional right. (0.00 / 0)
I would be in favor of healthcare for everyone but not the way the House or Senate envision it. It isn't a "deserving" thing as much as it is a "worked for" thing. Much like food (which I also don't believe to be a constitutional right) I think the government should make sure no American goes hungry but I would not translate that into letting anyone eat at any restaurant for free.

Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"

[ Parent ]
OK, (6.00 / 1)
but I still don't think being treated should be dependent on your job status so we definitely disagree there.  People shouldn't go hungry either though I worry less about payment for that since a typical trip to the grocery store might cost a few dozen dollars whereas a hospital stay runs into the thousands.

[ Parent ]
Just to clarify... I think everyone should get treated but I disagree on "by whom". (0.00 / 0)
People who pay for medical insurance should have a better selection of services while people who are low income should be able to get treatment for whatever sickness they have. When I was growing up we were always going to Boston City Hospital (we never had a regular DR) for tetanus shots, broken bones, flu... and never were denied treatment. I think this is still true.

Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"

[ Parent ]
Who do you think pays for emergency room care? (0.00 / 0)
They can't turn people away, nor should they, but the cost gets passed on, regardless.

How on earth is having the poor and non-insured clogging emergency rooms a better solution than having health coverage?


[ Parent ]
Build clinics and staff with residents. (0.00 / 0)


Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"

[ Parent ]
Are you seriously arguing for government clinics? (0.00 / 0)
Interesting.  All health care reform is arguing for is insurance.  Clinics are what the right is accusing Obama of sponsoring.

[ Parent ]
No, don't you remember I think government fucks up everything it touches. (4.00 / 1)
Private clinics run by private companies or associated with hospitals like they do now (Winchester Hospital Medical Center in Wilmington, MA).

This would allow affordable health care without the huge overhead of full flegded hospitals (and the cost burden). Stock it with residents or med/nursing students.

Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"


[ Parent ]
ratings abuse (6.00 / 2)
JohnD giving Christopher a ZERO for this comment is exactly why we think he's a Neerite (troll if the phrase weren't a Bob Neer ThoughtCrime(tm)).

[ Parent ]
Ah bullshit! (0.00 / 0)
First I rarely give anyone (even you) a ZERO. I typically like Christopher since he's not an "angry" hater like many of you and actually is usually reasonable. However, I gave him a ZERO for his statement...

was JohnD's, since he clearly thinks people shouldn't be covered.

I never said this nor do I mean it. however I do have opinions of "how" we supply medical care for low income people.

Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"


[ Parent ]
and that deserves a zero? (0.00 / 0)
Your ability to justify bad behavior is impressive.  Why is anyone that disagrees with you unreasonable and an "angry hater?"

This response should preserved as a reminder that you're not worth engaging.


[ Parent ]
Then why do you continue to engage me or even notice me. I'm good with you ignoring me. (0.00 / 0)
I never said "anyone" that disagrees with you unreasonable and an "angry hater" but I did say that many here are angry haters and I did insinuate that many here are unreasonable.

Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"

[ Parent ]
Another sign (0.00 / 0)
Ignoring the questioning in favor of focusing on nitpicky detail and whining about your treatment while insulting the other participants.  It's classic troll behavior.

FWIW, I had been ignoring you.  Your posts on this subject were so egregiously dishonest I had to speak up.


[ Parent ]
blah blah blah (0.00 / 0)
Find another outlet rather then get your goat with me. If you think I'm a troll then at least I'm a "classic" troll. BTW, please stop the name calling!

Try a little harder to ignore me. Here's some advice... when you see a post by me, skip over it and don't read it. That way you'll avoid the temptation of having to respond. Others here with similar venom towards me apparently have more will power and ignore me easily. Are you sure you're a VP? A friend of mine touted he was President and then I found out the company had 2 people in it.

Today is Nov 3rd so let's see how long you can go without responding to me or immaturely responding about me (and thereby keeping your claim of not responding "to me"). I'd give you 3 weeks.

Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"


[ Parent ]
5 minutes 45 seconds... absolutely no control. (0.00 / 0)


Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"

[ Parent ]
a bastardization of the English language (0.00 / 0)
for the greater good. see George Orwell.  

www.bit.ly/7Wousr - "Must include a public option"
www.bit.ly/7yaoMv - Coakley shifts, backs abortion curb
www.bit.ly/5f8CVb - John Kerry reporting for duty!
www.bit.ly/6rJnZU - Questions for Martha Coakley on Civil Rights  


[ Parent ]
Double ungood commenters? (6.00 / 1)
Always up for an acronym, how about "do not feed the DUCs?"

I believe that translates to a short and sweet DNFTDUC.  ;-)


[ Parent ]
It means (5.75 / 4)
The troll, do not feed.

If you'd prefer to play his game and pretend that the DJIA is terrifically important, shoot suit yourself.

Shoe bomber, underwear bomber -- why aren't we waging war on clothes?


[ Parent ]
Gafaw snort... so funny. (3.00 / 1)
Start acting like a grown up. If you didn't like my remark on the DJIA then ignore it. Don't you have ANY will power. Are you so consumed that you have to start the whole troll thing again to protect the weaker BMGers here?

Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"

[ Parent ]
Boo hoo (6.00 / 2)
Trolls hate to have their comments discredited.

[ Parent ]
You people are strange. (0.00 / 0)
I wrote a quick hit about the market dropping and suddenly I'm a troll. How does my remark about "getting out" of the market translate into trolling or anything ideological or partisan. You are way too sensitive to my comments.

Baker/Tisei in 2010... Charlie Baker on why people "have been" leaving MA, "It's not the weather here, it's the climate"

Well yesterday John (5.50 / 2)
Wall Street was having a party over fewer lost jobs. Now today they crashed over consumer sentiment. Today's Wall Street is a joke.  It's nothing more than a bunch of greedy brokers playing monopoly with other people's money.  By the time they are done, there will be no such thing as a 401k.

WE NEED A PUBLIC OPTION

[ Parent ]
Nothing sudden about it (6.00 / 1)
You've been characterized as a troll for as long as I've been here. Your comments here, together with your flagrant abuse of the rating system, reinforce that characterization.

"If the Republicans will stop lying about the Democrats, the Democrats will stop telling the truth about the Republicans" -- Adlai Stevenson

[ Parent ]
To be fair (6.00 / 3)
JohnD does not troll all of the time. He does contribute positively at times.

[ Parent ]
Agreed (6.00 / 1)
I agree, and I have participated in exchanges with him on those occasions.

"If the Republicans will stop lying about the Democrats, the Democrats will stop telling the truth about the Republicans" -- Adlai Stevenson

[ Parent ]
What is the point of that comment? (6.00 / 3)
Do you post comments whenever the market jumps up? No, of course you don't. You are just trying to perpetuate the Republican troll meme that the market behavior on a given day is an indicator of the performance of the Obama administration, but only if it goes down. Another worthless comment from you.

The fact that you are so sensitive to the criticism of your comments is a clear indication that you are frustrated that your intent was thwarted.


[ Parent ]
2 farmers are big (0.00 / 0)
Big farmer as in Monsanto GMO frankenfoods and those factory meat operations.  Under the false pretense of "food safety" Codex Alimentarius sides with Big in the for profit sense over nutrition and safety.
Big Pharma, well, synthetic chemicals for all, safety and effectiveness aside.

China set to not honor the derivatives market, thus dumping the dollar.

How big is the hole in the magntosphere and why is the sun free of sunspots.


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