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Horse Racing = Dog Fighting = Blood Sport?

by: Bob Neer

Sun May 04, 2008 at 00:57:25 AM EDT


We used to have legal blood sports in Massachusetts: cock fights to the death, bear baiting (in which a chained bear was torn apart by relays of dogs), even dog fights to the death.

We've moved beyond that. Perhaps because psychology convinced folks that brutality to animals leads to brutality toward humans (Jeffrey Dahlmer started on animals, according to the FBI), perhaps because Darwin and his successors convinced us we are all animals, perhaps because greater knowledge about the inter-connectedness of the environment showed people that our survival depends on how we treat creatures around us, or perhaps for some other reason, we no longer allow these kinds of sports.

The death of Eight Belles on the Kentucky Derby racetrack today -- a healthy animal forced to run for no purpose other than entertainment to the point where she broke both her legs and was killed -- suggests an uncomfortable kinship between horse racing and these earlier practices now deemed barbaric and illegal. The motives of the owners here may have been different, and there are in general many wonderful things about horse racing in my opinion, but the purpose -- the use of animals for entertainment -- was similar, and the result was the same for the horse.

(As an interesting aside, the MSPCA, one of the first animal welfare organizations in the United States, was founded in 1868 after George Thorndike Angell, a Boston lawyer, read about a horse race in which two animals -- each bearing two riders over 40 miles of rough roads -- were raced to death. Of late, however, sadly, that worthy institution  appears to have ceded pride of place in the local animal protection business to PETA.)

Maybe the time has come to conclude that the costs of horse racing outweigh the benefits, and close the books on this practice, just as we have done with cock fighting, bear baiting, dog fighting and, perhaps soon, dog racing.  

Bob Neer :: Horse Racing = Dog Fighting = Blood Sport?
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Please make this a cornerstone issue (4.75 / 4)
We as Republican's would thank you..........

So what about... (5.80 / 5)
when a hunting dog gets injured?  How about a dog at the kennel club show?

There's a massive difference between the rare accident in horse racing and the horrible condition the dogs were kept in and the intentional, willful forcing of animals to harm each other.


I'm no fan of the ponies, but I just don't think the connection is nearly strong enough Bob.  As far as I know, the horses are kept in much better facilities than the dogs, and accidents are both rare and avoided whenever possible [if only due to the value of the horse].  Am I wrong on that?


Each circumstance should be considered separately (6.00 / 1)
I think. I agree that race horses generally probably are treated very well -- the good ones, anyway. I don't know what happens to the colts that don't pan out, or the not very successful racers when they get old. I'm just noting the direction that history seems to be moving, and pointing out that there are some similarities between horse racing and these other now outlawed customs. As I said, I personally think there are many wonderful things about horse racing -- but there are also some not so great things about the practice. And fundamentally, pushing animals to the point of death for entertainment is ... appalling.

As to EaBo's comment, I'm sure that John McCain remembers trotting down to the local bear pit in medieval England. Maybe he can tell us what it was like sometime, when he can tear himself away from his plans for four more years of the Iraq fiasco and, what, $8.00 a gallon gas and a stock market down even more, if the current trends of fine Republican economic management continue?

BMG: Reality-based commentary.


Your example (5.00 / 1)
healthy animal forced to run for no purpose other than entertainment...

While the first part of this comment could be said of any human athlete out there today,

... to the point where she broke both her legs and was killed -- suggests an uncomfortable kinship between horse racing and these earlier practices now deemed barbaric and illegal.

The second part of your statement is a bit off in that unlike dog fighting and bear baiting, the purpose of the race is not to kill the animal.  As for why they ended the animals life, There are only two reasons (that I can see) - money or "putting it out of it's misery".  As this was a top named horse, I would think they would have been able to breed her for lots of money, so I can only assume that she wouldn't have been able to recover from two broken ankles (horses are not like humans - they stand most of the time and if they lay down for two long their insides get messed up - or so I understood when they put a beloved horse down at a nearby farm).

If you want to put an end to horse racing, I have no problem with that - but not for your stated reasons.


Hmm. (5.00 / 1)
the first part of this comment could be said of any human athlete out there today

Not really.  Human athletes choose to compete for the entertainment of others.  Not so with horses.

And your second point -- that the horse wouldn't have been able to recover from the injury -- is no doubt true, but is also an exercise in question-begging: if the horse hadn't raced, she wouldn't have suffered the fatal injury.


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Boston Marathon (0.00 / 0)
Human athletes choose to compete for the entertainment of others.

Watching the Boston Marathon I wondered (and awed) at the athletes....all of them.  Did they choose to compete for the entertainment of others or was it to escape destitute lives in their homeland, to overcome personal adversity and physical challenges, boredom, addiction?  Who knows, there is surely a unique story for every runner.

Watching Eight Belles compete and knowing horses who truly love to run, I find it sad and tragic that the filly stumbled, tripped and broke her ankles after finishing second in the Kentucky Derby.  I am still shocked and saddened today but don't think she was abused and it could have happened running in her paddock or a field.  She was a beautiful animal.  Big Brown wanted to keep running well after the finish, he dumped his jockey, he was so fired up.

Maybe it's a PC issue to oppose horse racing and if so then showing and jumping horses should go on the list.  I just don't think I'm on that wagon.
 


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The more appropriate comparison (5.00 / 1)
would probably be to dog racing, where the intent of the sport is not injury or death, but it is a too-common side effect.

I don't support dog racing, but I'm reluctant to say that horse racing is as bad. As I understand it, racing dogs are a fraction of the investment that racing horses are. Therefore it's in the interest of the horse's owner to keep it well cared for and healthy, whereas dogs are effectively disposable.

I know that the anti-greyhound advocates sometimes post on here. Any word on a comparison between the two?


This happens a lot, (0.00 / 0)
even though everyone agrees that the people involved in racing try to prevent it.  From today's WaPo (via Jay):

According to several estimates, there are 1.5 career-ending breakdowns for every 1,000 racing starts in the United States. That's an average of two per day....

Make no mistake, most of the people in thoroughbred racing love the animals and want them to be healthy. The Keeneland Association hosted a summit on the "Welfare and Safety of the Racehorse" after Barbaro's breakdown, to urgently consider how to better protect the horses. Synthetic surfaces are one result of the soul-searching.

But the problem is more complex than just surface; it's pervasive in the sport. Modern thoroughbreds are bred for extreme speed, maybe to the point of endangerment.

And the same article puts things in perspective pretty well:

There is no turning away from this fact: Eight Belles killed herself finishing second. She ran with the heart of a locomotive, on champagne-glass ankles for the pleasure of the crowd, the sheiks, oilmen, entrepreneurs, old money from the thousand-acre farms, the handicappers, men in bad sport coats with crumpled sheets full of betting hieroglyphics, the julep-swillers and the ladies in hats the size of boats, and the rest of the people who make up thoroughbred racing. There was no mistaking this fact, too, as she made her stretch run, and the apologists will use it to defend the sport in the coming days: She ran to please herself.

But thoroughbred racing is in a moral crisis, and everyone now knows it. Twice since 2006, magnificent animals have suffered catastrophic injuries on live television in Triple Crown races, and there is no explaining that away. Horses are being over-bred and over-raced, until their bodies cannot support their own ambitions, or those of the humans who race them.



Dog Fighting = Hose Racing. It's a long shot (6.00 / 1)
I was at Suffolk Downs yesterday for the track's opening day and the Derby. Over the last twenty years or so I have come to appreciate and enjoy horse racing. It is both a sport and entertainment. To isolate one high profile injury (and the fact that horses most often cannot recover from such a tramatic injury) and use that to equate horse racing to dog fighting/Blood sports s akin to Eabo's earlier attempts to equate Rep Scoirtino to the Socialist Workers Party (not that there is anything wormg with them!).

Horse racing = working horses. Similar to a rodeo or a ranch, they are working animals (Perhaps in the case of Eight Belles a much better treated working animal then one at a rodeo).

There is a beauty and a real sportto watching a horse and jockey run a race. And I believe there isa real caring for these horses by owners, trainers and jockeys alike. The same day of the Derby, a filly brokedown in one of the early races at Suffolk. The jockey threw himself off the horse to slow it and to minimize the injury. Track medical staff responded immediately and the horse carrier took the filly to medical treatment. With hundredsof races a day, (and with no reseach to back me) I would think that injuries to horses on ranches and in other working situations are similar.

I would suggest that a closer look ar horse drawn carriages in cities and the treatment of elephants in circuses and shows is a far more real comparison to dog fighting then horse racing will ever be.

Horse racing is a sport and an industry. Over $25 million was bet on the Kentucky Derby alone yesterday. The industry creates jobs, it generates revenue and it is not only high society and kings watching, it's union guys like me that appreciate the beauty and enjoy the gaming.


Interesting ... (0.00 / 0)
As I wrote, it was a question.

I agree that racing horses are similar to rodeo animals: entertainers. I don't think they are very similar to working horses on a ranch, however, because the latter aren't used for entertainment.

As to the money generated by the industry, that is an excellent practical point, but it doesn't address the moral issue: whether we should allow this practice to continue. Not to belabor the point, slavery was an industry that created lots of jobs (in the North as well as the South) but that didn't make it right.

BMG: Reality-based commentary.


[ Parent ]
using animals is dumb (0.00 / 0)
Humans forcing animals to do things for our pleasure is unnecessary cruelty.

We live in a such a cruel world already, why are we engaging in such silly activities as forcing animals to run around tracks for us?

Spend your money on saving the rainforest, not gambling on on horses.

Cruelty to a horse is equally as unjust as cruelty to a dog or a mouse.

Furthermore...
We need to stop using animals for our food and our entertainment.  Breeding animals for food is one of the biggest contributers to global warming. It is too bad Al Gore never mentions that.






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