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Hillary open thread

by: Charley on the MTA

Tue Aug 26, 2008 at 22:42:27 PM EDT


This should rock.

Update: "Were you in it for me, or for that Marine ... for that mother struggling with cancer ... " etc. That. Is. It. It's not about her, and it's definitely not even about Barack. Never was. Never will be.

Thank you Hillary.

Further update: 

It rocked.

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Let's hope. (0.00 / 0)


Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)
wow what a standing ovation (0.00 / 0)


Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)
screaming! (0.00 / 0)
My wife, a strong Hilary supporter, HATES the orange pants suit.

 Only the cod is sacred.
Who cares? LOL (0.00 / 0)
How about her hair and nails? Tweedy will surely talk about that!

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)
[ Parent ]
Last night (0.00 / 0)
She was saying Michelle should smile more, but by the end she was in tears and in awe of her.

This is a solid speech, but the orange is jarring.

 Only the cod is sacred.

[ Parent ]
Doesn't bother me (0.00 / 0)
It actually works really well with her skin complexion (if we must get into the whole double-standard lets-talk-about-her-hair-and-makeup stuff the media forces on us).

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)
[ Parent ]
Pops against the blue. (6.00 / 1)
Opposite side of the color wheel and all.

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Ooh Charley, so artsy! (0.00 / 0)
Wanna come over and help us argue about paint colors for the first floor?? :)

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)
[ Parent ]
I should say ... (0.00 / 0)
that I barely know what I'm talking about.

As usual.

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[ Parent ]
(Wait til you see the colors we've sort of settled on...) (0.00 / 0)
You can hardly call us timid.

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)
[ Parent ]
ooh, tie dye? ;) (0.00 / 0)
[ Parent ]
Let's just say (0.00 / 0)
They don't really make a brighter red color much anywhere...

Then again, we painted our bedroom DEEP deep purple. ;)

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)

[ Parent ]
Deep Purple (6.00 / 1)
Oh, thanks, Lynne, now I'll have "Smoke On the Water" stuck in my head for like a week.

Geez.

Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down.

[ Parent ]
use that orange on your walls (0.00 / 0)
there's a room in our house with almost that exact color orange painted on the walls. sponged over a lighter shade of orange. looks great! we love it! 'course it's a baby's room, so it works.

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[ Parent ]
Howard Johnson's (0.00 / 0)
I lived down the street from an anti-social neighbor who painted his house in HoJo colors.  It became a town landmark.

Where do you live?

Two doors from the HoJo house.  All I needed to say.

Michelle's pale green dress - gorgeous.

 Only the cod is sacred.

[ Parent ]
Indoor colors (0.00 / 0)
We have vinyl on the house, no need to paint it.

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)
[ Parent ]
first think (0.00 / 0)
that sprang to my mind too.  great minds... :)

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another thing!! (6.00 / 1)
OK, this has been irritating me for a long time. Everybody gives Hillary crap about colors and styles and this and that. And then people object that she shouldn't be judged by that, that it's trivializing, and sexist, and all that, and it is.

But I will say that I have always found Hillary to be super-gorgeous. And she still is. So everyone can cut the crap right about now.

Yeah.

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Charley has a crusssssssh! Charley has a crussssssssh! (0.00 / 0)
I hope this is enough to put the media insistence on covering the minuscule rift between supporters to BED.

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[ Parent ]
Not the crush part (0.00 / 0)
I mean her firm and ringing tone for uniting and working for Obama.

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)
[ Parent ]
Orange crush (0.00 / 0)
Speech crushes McCain.

 Only the cod is sacred.
[ Parent ]
charley and hillary, sitting in a tree (0.00 / 0)
k-i-s-s-i-n-g

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[ Parent ]
Hey (0.00 / 0)
We'll go out for burgers...you take Hillary, I'll take Chelsea.

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Believe it or not, I have even more to say...
[ Parent ]
Hillary kicks ass! (6.00 / 2)
I'll say... (0.00 / 0)
Yowza, that was a phenomenal speech.

"Perseverance is a great element of success. If you knock long enough and loud enough at the gate, you are sure to wake up somebody." -Longfellow
[ Parent ]
"No way, no how, no McCain" (6.00 / 1)
Wow that got the crowd riled

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)
She looks kinda glowy and happy tonight (0.00 / 0)
She's pulling it off so far - the right tone and vigor for supporting the nominee.

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)
At the risk of sounding like a lame white guy, (6.00 / 1)

"You go, girl!"
You sound like a lame white guy (0.00 / 0)
Kidding! LOL

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)
[ Parent ]
I am a lame white guy (0.00 / 0)

So no worries
[ Parent ]
Stephanie Tubbs Jones (6.00 / 1)
Thank you Hillary for mentioning her.

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Clinton has really come a long way (0.00 / 0)
Her speech making is pretty good. I remember not being impressed by her a couple years ago. She looks a lot more comfortable up there, nice pauses, and ringing tone.

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)
yeah, she's making me proud. (0.00 / 0)
[ Parent ]
nice punch list (6.00 / 1)
More of [Bush result here] and less of [good thing here]

nice, with the "NOOOOOO!" punctuating it.  

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)

twin cities (0.00 / 0)
"John Mccain thinks it's still OK that women dont earn equal pay (6.00 / 1)
"for equal work"

We gotta hit him hard hard hard on women's issues. If we can drive the woman to the Dems it'll be a landslide.

Gotta hit him on the SCOTUS.

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)

"We need to elect Barack Obama because we need a President who understands that we (0.00 / 0)
can't compete in the Global economy by padding the pockets of energy speculators while ignoring the workers whose jobs are being shipped overseas..."
A thematically rich, erudite, and brilliant speech, IMO.
nice historic context regarding the (6.00 / 2)
suffrage movement.

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)
That was sweet - and the reference... (6.00 / 2)
...to the Underground Railroad.  That crowd is energized!

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[ Parent ]
minds at ease (0.00 / 0)
Any worry that Obama's people had that she would be anything less than a tremendous asset up there should be very far gone.

She's doing a tremendous job for him. (and herself)

They'd be crazy if they don't do everything they can to get her on the stump as much as possible in the next two months.

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You really see (0.00 / 0)
she really is enthused to be on stage, pumping up the crowd, to elect Obama.

I can't imagine the disappointment she must have had, and for her to come here and speak just so glowingly, is pretty big of her.

UNITY!!

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)

OK, I'm off to bed (0.00 / 0)
It's way past time for my Tuesday night (always have a 7am meeting in the morning).

Thanks Charley, and to David and Bob, for the coverage. It's not like being there (still cuing Cartmen: "Seriously, I hate you guys") but you did a great job. Looking forward to more.

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)

Thanks, Lynne. (0.00 / 0)
Seriously. Nice to feel appreciated. We're having a good time doing it.

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[ Parent ]
In four years (0.00 / 0)
I am so going! Dammit!

Left in Lowell: cuz why read the Lowell Sun if you don't have to? ;)
[ Parent ]
Did she say anything lauditory about Obama? (3.33 / 3)
If she did, I didn't hear it.
deaf? (0.00 / 0)
she only said that what we're united as dems to do, he intends to do as one among us.  maybe it was too subtle for listeners with goopers in their ears?

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No, Laurel (0.00 / 0)
...I de-goopered in preparation for the speech.

But even gooper-free, I never heard her say anything that indicated that she felt Mr. Obama was a great man or would be a great President. Did you?

I'll read the transcript when it comes out to see if I missed something but it sure sounded pretty boilerplate "we need to elect a Democrat" to me.

[ Parent ]
Uh, No..... (0.00 / 0)
OK, yeah, she made it absolutely clear that she and Barack were on the same policy wavelength. Yeah, she made the great Harriet Tubman reference. Yeah, she made sure that folks understood that if you care about me, you'll vote for him. She said the things that need to be said so that if Barack should lose, she can say with a straight face that "I told my people to vote for him." She said that very well. But she DIDN'T come forward and say something that she really did need say.

I was deeply hoping to hear her say "this is a good man, an honorable man, a man of outstanding judgment." She didn't say "yes, he'll be ready when the 3 AM phone call comes." As Craig Crawford, writing for cqpolitics.com put it http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/tr...

What Obama most needed was Clinton's help in persuading voters that he has the personal character, judgment and skill to actually achieve the programmatic goals that the two Democrats share. There was not even a hint of that. Clinton almost seemed to be saying that Obama is worth supporting only because he isn't a Republican.

Clinton and Obama shared the debate stage numerous times over the past year. They were competitors, but they serve together in the Senate and in this campaign she must have come to know him in some way. Surely there was something of a personal nature that Clinton could have said to underscore what was basically a one-dimensional endorsement.

Consider how Clinton referred to John McCain as her "friend" (before slamming the expected GOP nominee on policy matters). You got the impression from this speech that, on a personal level, she likes McCain better than Obama.

The character attacks are coming from the right -- she needed to really make it clear that she has his back on that issue. It didn't go far enough.  

[ Parent ]
Off-topic, but what of the Exxon-Mobil propaganda on CNN right now (0.00 / 0)
Creepy commercials- "We're good guys, honest"
"We charge you exorbitant amounts at the pump... (0.00 / 0)
...only because we love helping sick African children so much! You wouldn't want these poor kids dying from malaria, now, would you? C'mon, it's not like we keep the money and make ourselves obscenely wealthy."

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Let me get this straight: Democrats protest war, Republicans protest health care?

[ Parent ]
And why was it exactly that (6.00 / 1)
he did not choose her for VP?

Wow...what a speech...class act...

maybe it even earned her the full roll call tally she clearly deserves.

Thanks Hillary.

Why (0.00 / 0)
My theory (though certainly not mine alone, and not of my invention) is that Obama didn't ask because Clinton wouldn't have said yes (or, that he did ask and she said no, some time back), and that instead she wants Harry Reid's job.

And I hope she gets it.

Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down.

[ Parent ]
it was a rhetorical question (0.00 / 0)

[ Parent ]
Guess you didn't hear this part of the speech (0.00 / 0)
Update: "Were you in it for me, or for that Marine ... for that mother struggling with cancer ... "


"Perseverance is a great element of success. If you knock long enough and loud enough at the gate, you are sure to wake up somebody." -Longfellow
[ Parent ]
I heard it, I got it... long before I heard it (6.00 / 2)
Hillary made her supporters very proud tonight....because it was never about her personally, it was about exactly what she talked about tonight...tonight perhaps those who found such delight in berating her finally get it too.
[ Parent ]
Loved it! (6.00 / 3)
Loved it loved it loved it!

The twin cities line was my favorite line of the night. Bam! Then the Tubman section -- "keep going" -- just the picture perfect image and the right tone. Just blew it out of the park.

Who was that emotional delegate Suzanne Malveaux interviewed? (0.00 / 0)
after the speech.  Who?  What state?  Saying she won't vote for the Democratic candidate in November?
Tonight, I sleep like a baby (6.00 / 1)
The pundits had my ass in a knot.

Thank you Hillary.

A consensus formed from the echo of parrots, is no consensus.
I'm Jack Mitchell and I'm confused by this message.

So proud! (0.00 / 0)
Who cares about her suit/hair/makeup - Hillary  left no room for ambiguity tonight. We must elect Barack Obama in November. From where I was sitting, she hit a grand slam.
Who cares? (0.00 / 0)
My wife does.  Of course, there's a stack of fashion magazines sitting next to the toilet in my bathroom, and my wife is a pianist, so she takes the "on stage" thing very seriously.

My wife loves Hillary, and she has been giving me grief since the MA primary for backing Obama, so this is not a mean spirited commentary from a Hillary hater.  Yet, she is still ranting about that orange pantsuit.

For those who think it's a double standard, if any male presenter were to get up in front of the convention with a bright orange suit, I am sure the whole world would be ranting about the outfit.

Simply stated, I live with a Hillary supporter who would have heard much more of Hillary's message if she didn't come dressed in bright orange.

 Only the cod is sacred.

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