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Twittering again (GOP open thread)

by: Charley on the MTA

Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 21:01:33 PM EDT


The hugTonight's magical festivities. This was my first:

You know, the GOP acts like 9/11 was the best day in their lives. This little video is downright pornographic. Fear: Then Vote.

 Maybe that's worth a longer post sometime, but this just continues the GOP's political exploitation of what was in fact a gigantic bureaucratic and national-security cockup on their parts -- and to a great extent remains so. And perhaps the national media has somewhat backed off of the Bush ball-washing; and therefore all that garbage has lost its potency with the public. We should be so lucky.

Update: Globe noticed too about the live footage of 9/11. Didn't realize it had never been done. I guess the GOP is desperate enough.

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Twittering again (GOP open thread) | 46 comments
Cindy McCain didn't just say ... (0.00 / 0)
Loyal, loving, and true husband, did she?

Really?

That's priceless.

"loyal, loving, and true ... (6.00 / 1)
... to me, anyway."

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So what politics do you deserve?
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Anyone else notice (0.00 / 0)
that, from above, the new stage looks like a giant phallus?  Hilarious!
I don't see it ... ; ) (6.00 / 1)


Listening to Charlie Baker talk about fiscal responsibility is like getting lectured on abstinence from Paris Hilton - Tim Murray
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with one big blue (0.00 / 0)
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McCain is visibly annoyed (0.00 / 0)
by the frequent disruptions by protesters.  Apparently the Dems did a better job with the 84,000 at Invesco than the GOP did with the 15,000 (or whatever it is) in Xcel!
Protesters? (0.00 / 0)
Wasn't there mega security to gain access to the Excel? Wasn't McCain speaking to his party loyalists? Wasn't that supposed to be an adoring audience for him. Well then, what protests? What were they protesting.
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Staged. (0.00 / 0)
No way anyone unwanted got into the convention.
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Not so sure (0.00 / 0)
I've read a couple reports of a Ron Paul delegate being escorted out for converting one of the officially sanctioned signs into a RP sign.
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you lost the public's trust - nuf sed (6.00 / 2)
McCain used the term "corporate welfare" - that's an example of successful framing by our side.

Except he tried to pin it on Obama.  

the use of "both parties" followed by a partisan attack was priceless (6.00 / 1)
Sad, but priceless.
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Actually, I think it was sincere (6.00 / 1)
McCain's Republicans will work closely with the Alaskan Independence Party.

- Dan

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weird (0.00 / 0)
Is this the first time that "elitist" and "isolationist" have been paired, and "populist" and "free trader" dually claimed? The only way this works is by authoritarianism - get people to fiercely defend the interests of their betters.  
9/11 images may have never been used by politicans (0.00 / 0)
but Fox News uses those videos all the time.  Usually interlaced with a speech by some Democrat about the need to protect Civil Liberties.
Huh? (0.00 / 0)
Did McCain just remind that he remembers Pearl Harbor?  On purpose?

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Believe it or not, I have even more to say...
It was even in the script. (6.00 / 1)
You can tell because he stumbled reading it off the teleprompter.  

His delivery and facial expressions are awful, BTW.  I keep thinking I'm watching "Charlie Brown Runs for Student Council."  

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Somewhere, in a hotel room... (5.86 / 7)
...Mitt Romney is repeatedly bashing his head against a hard surface.

(Another golden moment...McCain stumbles over the line "teach an illiterate adult to read" while trying to read it from the teleprompter. )

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Believe it or not, I have even more to say...

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By the way, McCain is lying (surprise!) (6.00 / 4)
McCain tonight:

Senator Obama thinks we can achieve energy independence without more drilling, and without more nuclear power.

Obama's speech last week:

As President, I will tap our natural gas reserves, invest in clean coal technology, and find ways to safely harness nuclear power.

And from a few weeks back,

Sen. Barack Obama suggested on Friday that he could accept an expansion of offshore oil drilling as long as it was part of a broader package of measures that would free the logjam of energy bills in Congress.

"My interest is in making sure we've got the kind of comprehensive energy policy that can bring down gas prices," Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, said in an interview with the Palm Beach Post. "If, in order to get that passed, we have to compromise in terms of a careful, well-thought-out drilling strategy that was carefully circumscribed to avoid significant environmental damage -- I don't want to be so rigid that we can't get something done."


they drowned out his big crescendo (0.00 / 0)

Random Republican hilarity -- the "u" word (6.00 / 1)
The Hill:

Georgia Republican Rep. Lynn Westmoreland used the racially-tinged term "uppity" to describe Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama Thursday.

Westmoreland was discussing vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin's speech with reporters outside the House chamber and was asked to compare her with Michelle Obama.

"Just from what little I've seen of her and Mr. Obama, Sen. Obama, they're a member of an elitist-class individual that thinks that they're uppity," Westmoreland said.

Asked to clarify that he used the word "uppity," Westmoreland said, "Uppity, yeah."

Unbelievable.

This is the same guy... (6.00 / 1)
...who wants the ten commandments plastered all over every government building in the land - but when asked to recite the ten commandments, could only get 3 of them!  Typical ignorant Republican...

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Well, uh, that was ... (5.50 / 2)
pretty lame.  I mean, no one expected him to out-orate Obama.  But for God's sake, the guy has no concept about public speaking.  Step 1: learn to use the teleprompter.  
I'd be pissed if I were Republican (6.00 / 5)
He really sold out every incumbent Republican in the country.  Elizabeth Dole, Susan Collins, Mitch McConnell, Norm Coleman, and Ted Stevens and any other Republican incumbent running for re-election were all labeled as part of the problem by their own presidential nominee.

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Funny he didn't suggest (0.00 / 0)
that anyone go out and be a community organizer.  Be a teacher, enlist, run for office, join the ministry, and some others, but nothing about singing for a rock and roll band, or fighting in the streets?  What else can a poor boy do?
Actually, (6.00 / 1)
that's not a bad point.  What he was saying was EXACTLY along the lines of "go out and be a community organizer."  But of course he couldn't say that, since his running mate just trashed community organizers.  That is going to come back to haunt Palin, IMHO.  It was truly mean-spirited.
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Well, not a teacher (6.00 / 1)
He spent quite some time on the fact that many of us teachers need to be fired, and education should be sold to the highest private bidder.

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[ Parent ]
it must mean something (3.00 / 4)
to focus groups, like communist pot smokers who are just bugging people about Saul Alinsky all the time.  Plus, in Obama's case, with hindsight, it insinuates that he only did it to get himself into the state senate and on his annointed way, just like joining the church as an outsider and unbeliever, just to get a foothold in the community (and then professing to have got religion, which seems semi-legit but too academic (we won't be convinced tell we hear him speak in tongues).
[ Parent ]
... and now you've completely lost me. (6.00 / 1)
Quit cheesing, dude.
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I'm just wondering (0.00 / 0)
why they seem to be happy to highlight this (foundational) part of his career.

I think people must associate Community Organizers with radical communists who are always trying to overthrow the system.  Apparently there was no vetting done on his Community Organizing past by Democrats.  Did you know Saul Alinsky dedicated his book Rules For Radicals to Lucifer?

[ Parent ]
When you demean Obama's faith in Jesus... (6.00 / 3)
...you demean everyone's faith in Jesus.  Just like the morons wearing purple heart bandaids at the RNC in 2004 were demeaning every purple heart recipient since the award was established - how do you live with yourself?

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Talking about why he joined the church (0.00 / 2)
Isn't it a fact that he was an unbeliever when he joined, and he joined it to network and embed himself in the community?
[ Parent ]
slander (0.00 / 0)
if you're going to assert something as "fact", you need to back it up with evidence.

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"Trinity was where I found Christ" (0.00 / 0)
That's from Obama's resignation letter.  So, that means he hadn't found Christ before joining.  As to why he joined, here is a passage from an article I found that has some quotes from people around at the time:
From Wright and others, Obama learned that part of his problem as an organizer was that he was trying to build a confederation of churches but wasn't showing up in the pews on Sunday. When pastors asked him the inevitable questions about his own spiritual life, Obama would duck them uncomfortably. A Reverend Philips put the problem to him squarely when he learned that Obama didn't attend services. "It might help your mission if you had a church home," he told Obama. "It doesn't matter where, really. What you're asking from pastors requires us to set aside some of our more priestly concerns in favor of prophesy. That requires a good deal of faith on our part. It makes us want to know just where you're getting yours from."

After many lectures like this, Obama decided to take a second look at Wright's church. Older pastors warned him that Trinity was for "Buppies"--black urban professionals--and didn't have enough street cred. But Wright was a former Muslim and black nationalist who had studied at Howard and Chicago, and Trinity's guiding principles--what the church calls the "Black Value System"--included a "Disavowal of the Pursuit of 'Middleclassness.'"

The cross currents appealed to Obama. He came to believe that the church could not only compensate for the limitations of Alinsky-style organizing but could help answer the nagging identity problem he had come to Chicago to solve. "It was a powerful program, this cultural community," he wrote, "one more pliant than simple nationalism, more sustaining than my own brand of organizing. "


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FYI (0.00 / 0)
When a lot of Black folks say they "found Christ" it's not meant figuratively.  It's not meant to suggest that they didn't believe in God. It's meant to describe when the person made an effort to perhaps live their lives differently.  It in know way suggest anything other that in my opinion.
[ Parent ]
Does it support my assertion, though? (0.00 / 0)
Laurel asked me to back up my "slander", which was not even an "assertion" but a question.  I think I answered it myself that he was indeed an unbeliever when he joined, both according to his own words and others, and provided links.  Anyhow, my point wasn't to make those assertions as fact (impossible, no one could know such things even about themselves) but to discuss why the McCain campaign might be highlighting the "community organizer" aspect of Obama's history.  David seemed to think that everyone in the country automatically has a high opinion of community organizers, but that's not true; usually they are seen as do-nothing agitators, but on top of that, in Obama's case it is seen in the same way as his joining the church is, for his political career.  OK, that was my point about that.  Will that be good enough for Laurel and David to treat respectfully, or will it be met with flings of monkey poo?  We'll see.
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Looks like Obama rejected community organizing (0.00 / 0)
A commenter on RMG pointed to this article about Obama's decision to go quit the CO movement and become a public servant (like McCain suggests).

So, it looks like he didn't get involved in CO just to kickstart a political career, as I had insinuated.  Apparently he didn't want to be in politics until getting disillusioned with CO and then seeing public office as the better way to help people (and also, apparently, make a good living).

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Gergen, Brooks, Shields all agree (0.00 / 0)
that the policy part of the speech sucked.  Vague retreads of old, failed Republican ideas that are inconsistent with his personal "maverick" story that he's desperate to sell, and fatally undercut his efforts to be the "change" candidate.

The McCain campaign comes out of the convention completely muddled.  What is the campaign's message?  What does it stand for?  Honestly, I have no idea.

Jeffrey Toobin: this was the worst speech by a nominee since Carter (0.00 / 0)
"shockingly bad."  Wow.  Says Palin in contrast was great -- riveting, exciting.
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Anderson Cooper: (0.00 / 0)
We were wondering if they'd taken all of the speechwriters and shipped them over to Sarah Palin's hotel room for the last couple of days.

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Believe it or not, I have even more to say...
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Brooke Shields agrees? (6.00 / 1)
Oh wait, on second reading, never mind... :)
[ Parent ]
9/11 pornography (0.00 / 0)

The orchestration adds to the effect, in particular a dissonant strike (from a flute?) as the plane hits the building at time 0:46.


This just showed up in my inbox... (6.00 / 3)
...don't know who sent it.  Strange.



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It was an alright speech. (6.00 / 1)
Sounds better in the original german.
I miss Molly Ivins... (6.00 / 1)
She'd have a lot to say about the Palin pick, I'm sure of that...

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And Ann Richards (0.00 / 0)


"It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that things are difficult." - Seneca (5 BC - 65 AD)
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Abusing the 911 image isn't new to the GOP (0.00 / 0)
Og used it just a few short months ago.  Funny the globe didn't remember.

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