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School on Good Friday?

by: David

Sun Jun 10, 2007 at 13:03:44 PM EDT


I don't remember having Good Friday off from school when I was in public school growing up, but maybe I did.  In any event, the issue is a live one: Winchester has just announced that, in a departure from past practice, it will hold classes on Good Friday.  According to the Globe, the decision "is not sitting well with some residents and area Catholics."

Those familiar with my extreme distaste for blue laws and the like might easily predict my view on this: Winchester's decision was a no-brainer.  Good Friday is, of course, a specifically Christian holiday.  Winchester schools are not closed on Rosh Hashanah, nor on Yom Kippur, nor on the first day of Ramadan -- despite the increasingly significant population of Jews and Muslims in Winchester.  Here's the school committee's reasoning:

Superintendent of Schools James Marini said the decision was made after the School Committee wrestled with the idea of incorporating other religious holidays into the school calendar. He said a growing number of parents had asked that school be suspended on Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur and at the beginning of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

Adding days off for Jewish and Muslim holidays would lengthen the school year -- a problem because of a lack of air conditioning in the buildings and a tangle of issues with teachers' contracts -- so a majority of the board thought it was only fair to observe none. Christmas will remain because it is a national holiday and falls within a week-long winter break.

"Public schools cannot be in the business of deciding on which religious holidays to observe," said School Committee member Samuel Kounaves. "It appeared that people wanted other religious holidays off, and if we were to give too many, it would become unmanageable. We can't play favorites." ...

[T]he board wanted to "separate church and state, but at the same time be fair to people and not penalize students for missing class on religious or cultural holidays."

That balancing act means no homework will be due, no tests will be administered, and no field trips will be planned on religious holidays, allowing families to keep their children home from school without significant consequence.

Observe all (at least with respect to religions with a significant representation in the community), or observe none.  I find it very hard to argue with that.

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Growing up (0.00 / 0)
Growing up in Methuen we always had Good Friday off. After I moved to Andover a couple of years ago, the school system here closes for major Jewish holidays and Good Friday. I don't have a problem with recognizing major religious holidays, and deciding to not hold school on those days. I do agree with the Winchester decision though, if you aren't going to recognize all of the major religious holidays then you shouldn't recognize any of them. Seems like common sense to me, and I'm even a Catholic.

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Pet Peeve (6.00 / 2)
In all the years I've been elected to a school committee, I've yet to vote to approve a school calendar because of this very issue.  (I and one other member are hold outs every year--two votes out of 20.) Until we get rid of Good Friday, I will not vote to approve the school calendar.  [shrug]

On the other side of the coin, in all my years of teaching, there has only been one district that I've worked in that did not observe Good Friday.  I get it off now, and it bugs the living hell out of me. 


Stand your ground (0.00 / 0)
I agree, Iris.

I was of the firm opinion that if we take off for Good Friday, we should also take off for Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur.  For the same reason, I never voted for a school calendar during the years of my school committee service.

Of course, as a casual observer who doesn't observe Good Friday, I can't really evaluate what people do on the holiday.  However, I once tried to go to Panera Bread in Chelmsford at around 1:00 on a recent Good Friday and found the parking lot of shopping center (which also contains a Wal-Mart) so totally jammed that I gave up on the whole idea of soup in a bread bowl and went elsewhere.

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all or nothing (6.00 / 2)
The Winchester decision seems fair to me.  If they want, parents can yank their kids for the day without penalty (other than having to sit through boring services ;).  I see no other fair option in a multicultural society.  I felt differently when I was a kid, though, since I coveted every day off, no matter the reason.  I'd have been for every conceivable religion and sci fi cult getting the school closed for their special days.

As for Good Friday specifically, I remember going to school (in MI) on that day, and going to church for a midnight service that night (all adults worked that day).  According to wiki, there are varying customs within most Christian denominations regarding working on that day.  In some countries people work, some don't, some work half days...there is apparently no concensus on a biblical mandate for truancy on Good Friday.

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the perfect policy! (0.00 / 0)

all or nothing; short, concise, understandable and fair.
(i guess that 'everybody or nobody' could work equally as well)

it's like nativity scenes on the courthouse lawn. either don't allow them, or don't say one peep when local hindus want to erect a 10 foot shrine to ganesh.


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I had school at UMASS on Good Friday (5.00 / 1)
which didn't bother me.  It DID bother me when I had 3 exams on Good Friday, however. 

Whether or not it was because it was on Good Friday or whether it was having 3 exams on one day, I wasn't sure.


When I was... (0.00 / 0)
...growing up in a northern suburb of Cincinnati in the 1960s, we usually had a four-day weekend around Easter (Friday and Monday off, and, of course, Saturday and Sunday).  For a couple of years, they gave us the week after Easter off--something like MA's "spring break"--but then they went back to the four-day weekend.

The school system also allowed the few Jewish students that it had to take off the Jewish holidays without repercussion.  I don't know what the system did to allow them to catch up with the instruction held on those days, but I suspect that they had a way to accommodate.


Swampscott (0.00 / 0)
Never had Good Friday off, but if it were Easter Sunday, I'm sure they would have.

We did have both Yon Kappur and Rosh Hashanah off, but we have a very large Jewish population. Up until recently, Swampscott had 3 fairly large Jewish temples to 1 Catholic Church (albiet, a very large one).

The town has generally given well-populated faiths their one or two most important holidays off and, for the people of other faiths, are very tolerant toward allowing them additional days that don't count toward unexcused absences.

I find this a good policy because it isn't worth having class if a lot of people will be absent. As a former practicing Catholic, I don't see what should happen on Good Friday that would prevent someone from going to school. Yet, if someone is very religious and wants to take the day off to pray 24/7, then that's their constitutional right.

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Andover (5.00 / 1)
tried to have school on Good Friday one year and couldn't staff the schools -  the practicing Christians who were teachers and subs took the day off - not enough bodies left...

You raise a good point (0.00 / 0)
What happens if no one shows up anyway?

Is it worth opening school if half the students and most of the teachers take the day off?


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A reasonable decision (0.00 / 0)
Winchester's decision is reasonable and I hope all towns follow the example. I grew up in a town that somehow managed to have a population that was about 1/3 protestant, 1/3 Catholic, and 1/3 Jewish. The public schools didn't close for any religious holidays except Christmas, when we were on break anyway. Some of the Catholic kids who weren't at the parochial schools left the public schools early on Wednesdays to go to religious school without penalty. Little Jewish kids like me took the high holidays off to go to services, and we weren't penalized for that, either. It all seemed to work pretty well. Why is this even a topic for discussion in 2007? 

Dissenting Opinion (0.00 / 0)
I think Good Friday should remain a school holiday since the majority of students in public schools, especially in the highly Catholic Boston area are Christian and should get the day off. I do not think when it comes to issues like religious holidays that we should change the policy, granted I also think that minority faiths should have their holidays recognized as well. Cambridge to its credit has Yom Kippur as a holiday, and Muslim students can take off Eid without any penalty, etc. To change a holiday of a majority faith and force the majority of children that might otherwise be celebrating it to go to school to appease a minority does not make common sense, most students would have to take that day off anyway.  Using that logic we should have class on Christmas as well so as not to offend those that do not celebrate it, and such logic does not make sense.

I fully support the seperation of church and state but feel that school holidays especially religious ones do not violate the spirit of seperation since the school is not endorsing a faith, if the school allows students of any religion to take religious days off or to have official holidays than I think it is fair. I do agree systems that have class on Yom Kippur but take Good Friday off are being unfair and hypocritical but on the all or nothing debate I say all instead of nothing. Its foolish to have no fun so no one is offended.


hate to break it to ya, (0.00 / 0)
but your opinion isn't so much dissenting from most of those above as it is choosing one end of the "all or nothing" spectrum.  you opt for the "all" rather than the "nothing".  hey, cool!  i wish you'd have been making the rules when i was in school!  not only are days off fun, but as an atheist they gave me time to academically overtake some of my religious classmates.  there they were, participating in services.  there i was, catching up on studies, taking frequent t.v. breaks.  loved it! :)

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Interesting dilemma... (0.00 / 0)
I am not an atheist (more of a non-practicing, skeptical Christian), but I could see how the new Winchester policy could eventually cause conflict with the non-religious.  If any student is allowed to take off his/her religion's major holidays, then where do you draw the line? 

Somewhere along the line, there may come an agnostic or an atheist or even a member of a relatively obscure religion that feels that s/he also deserves a particular day off, so Winchester does need to be prepared for this scenario.


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I take exception... (6.00 / 1)
with your comments about "appeasing" the minority and avoiding offense. I don't see this as a matter of being "politically correct", which is how I interpret your comment (pls. correct me if I'm wrong), but as a matter of public policy in a country where our constitution guarantees the separation of church and state. As for Christmas, it's a national holiday. We're not going to do anything about that.

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Ah ha! (0.00 / 0)
Good sir,

Where do you draw the line? Somehow Christmas which literally means the feast of Christ is a so called "national holiday" and some kind of scared cow (pardon the pun) that cannot be done away with unlike Good Friday? I say if you want to keep Christmas you have to keep Good Friday. I see nothing wrong with the state recognizing the needs of the majority of its citizens, it is not violating the establishment clause at all. If you provide days off to other minority faiths than I see no problem, again I am taking the all approach.

As for atheists well what can we do about them? They are free to do as they will on the days off, they are free not to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, but they are not free to force their standards upon others. I see nothing wrong with a private nativity scene on public land its just as valid an expression of free speech as a sacrireligious flyer on public grounds. Its all the same to me. The days off shouldnt be any different.


The issue is (0.00 / 0)
Christmas is literally a national holiday. Congress passed a law, declaring it so. Good Friday, while one of the holiest days in the Christian calender, has no such recognition. School systems are under no obligation whatsoever to give students and teachers Good Friday off.

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